Which team do you think had the best blend of performance and reliability in their car in ? And who under-performed and over-performed with the machinery they built? Got a potential story, tip or enquiry? Find out more about RaceFans and contact us here. Sankalp Sharma 3rd December , Mike mike 3rd December , Qualifying or not. But there was the odd moment when it was equal on race pace. The fourth fastest in qualifying.
GideanYates 3rd December , As Keith indicated the analysis speaks to single lap speed. The Ferrari was the 3rd fastest car overall but one aspect that is so often overlooked is while Alonso typically put it on the 3rd row the Ferrari launch system is by far the best when compared to the top end teams. Massa and Alonso typically gained at least one row after the start. Which put him right behind the leaders after lap one. Nonetheless, he drove sublimely this season. I could live without his constant self promotion at the expense of his team and Vettel.
BasCB bascb 4th December , They were fourth fastest, but did have an car advantage in that it was better at reaching the finish without technical defects. Ace of base 4th December , If you put all these factors together, no other drivers came close. If Mclaren showed better relaibilty and not giving away points to Alonso then it would have been a straight fight between Hamilton and Vettel.
Alonso should consider himself a lucky boy to have been in the hunt for WDC. Vinnie Jones visi 13th December , Keith, an excellent analysis as always. Data wins arguments, and I am glad this site continues to present this data, adding value to the F1 viewing community head and shoulders above any other F1 outlet I have ever found.
We knew RBR had slowed since last year, and it was clear to see a reduction in their dominance, but I didnt suspect the reduction was so extreme. He has IMHO good racecraft, and all the other pieces required to be one of the greats when his career ends years from now. Further, this data also supports the idea that FA was able to extract much more performance from his livery than it seemed capable of.
Mclaren should be ashamed, as should Lotus, but perhaps a bit less so…. All in all, I feel this was a fantastic season. We saw many great moves, much overcoming of odds, and truly great drivers performing super-human feats of skill and bravery. Keith Collantine keithcollantine 3rd December , Above all I think it shows that what really helped make this season great was that the field was so close.
Very interesting indeed. OldIron 3rd December , Race and Qualifying were very different beasts. The idea is to come up with the best guess for a race outcome without crashes, pit errors or breakdowns. Without trying to apportion blame it would hopefully not be overly controversial, but would remain an exercise in guesswork: its just to give an impression of how things might have panned out if there were no incidents to shuffle things up.
DaveW dmw 4th December , I think people put too much into the race pace versus qualifying pace issue.
It seems to met that the engineers and designers build the fastest possible car in raw speed, and then figure out how to help it manage the tires. Now, with standard weight distribution, I think it is mostly a matter of set-up anyway—camber, dif, anti-roll. It would be very odd to give up anything in raw pace by design, given that a few tenths can be the difference between pole and starting rows deep and having almost no chance to win the race.
Olivier42 olivier42 3rd December , Actually, neither. Speaking of percentages of percentages masks differences underlying rates. Looking at the numbers, relative to the fastest car, Ferrari was three times slower than RBR.
Yes, there are for me two main points to be seen from this data: the rule change did what was intended: close up the field and reign in Red Bull a bit; And McLaren really need to fix their reliability and track operations, even more so than last year already seemed clear. Oh, forgot another point: Williams definitely underperformed. MazdaChris mazdachris 3rd December , In other words, not remotely likely. Well most people have, it was a confusing issue.
So no doubt people will have lots of varied opinions. Enigma enigma 3rd December , I think everyone looking at things objectively can say that Vettel is one of the very best drivers on the grid and a worthy multiple world champion.
Max Jacobson vettel1 4th December , People will always come up with new arguments, as last year have been disproven this year as you said, but sadly I find it unlikely that we will ever see Vettel gaining the respect of everyone. Robbie robbie 5th December , Of that there is no question. He earned the WDC. So I would have been fine with either one this year. And I think it is a bit of an insult to Adrian Newey as well, given how their season saw them placed in the end.
SV still had the WCC winning car. It was a very unique first half of the year, if not full season. Drivers complained of being limited by the tires. Given the outbursts he has been capable of in the WCC winning car, I wonder how together his mental state would be in a an Adrian-free zone like Mercedes.
Max Jacobson vettel1 5th December , I think those statements can no longer apply: yes he had a great car but by nowhere near the margin that he had last year. Or they could try to drag up the yellow flags incident at Brazil, the list could go on and on. These type of one-sided criticism from such shallow fans would be near impossible to satisfy sadly.
Not until they decide to acknowledge that both Alonso and Vettel are both actually great legends of the era, in their own unique ways. Just like how it has been for Senna and Prost etc.
Ohh boy, Williams was faster than force india in 16 races and yet they were 33 points behind in the table, thats massive under performance. Brilliant information… so in conclusion Mclarean lost both titles because of reability and team mistakes… Poor Jenson and Lewis….
Well, the figures above are simply the fastest laps set over the weekend; there were times when the single lap pace of some cars belied a car which was hard on its tyres and failed to translate single lap pace into race pace. But yes, overall it does seem pretty clear that McLaren had a car which, on pace, should have delivered both championships this year.
That, of course, is their objective. F 4th December , The drivers are to blame also. Hamilton was consistently much weaker in race pace then in qualifying pace, usually because of his tyre usage.
I think Vettel and Alonso would have scored more points in the Mclaren then Button and Hamilton easily. Both are better on race day. Yeah they may have reason for encouragement for next year, but I think they need to get a handle on tire useage and obviously they need to not sacrifice the pace they have shown, for needed improved reliability next year.
They perhaps needed to beef some things up, which might have cost them some pace but been worth it in the end. Do we know that yet? Mac, and others of course, really need to get a handle on that. I wonder if — as a statistical exercise — it would be possible to do some correction, based on reliability.
Or if not — do you have this data on an Excel sheet I can download somewhere? Mike mike 4th December , Brace brace 3rd December , You mean, would it be possible to make it look like Vettel achieved more then this data shows, while also showing Alonso did less? Max Jacobson vettel1 3rd December , Mads mads 3rd December , Therefore Ferrari would be slower in comparison to different people, which means while Alonso would score points consistently while the people around, and specially behind, would not.
Compare it to the championship winning car, and it looks somewhat different. Aditya Banerjee chicanef1 3rd December , They were ahead of Force India, Toro Rosso and the back three.
If it were not for the Mclarens and Redbulls having incident reliability problems, slow starts, kers issues, accidents, etc packed races, I doubt the Ferrari would have finished on the podium as much as it did.
Tifoso tifoso 3rd December , I reckon McLaren could give them a run for their money in both categories now with the P1 and their record of having had the most victories since their inception in I have criticised their team ethics and their insistence on kidding themselves into thinking Alonso worked wonders with a bad car when realistically he did what the car was capable of — no mean feat but hardly what it is being made out to be.
Where did you learn the count?? What other category please did you mean Super Car?????? Aditya Banerjee chicanef1 4th December , Granted that the Williams then was faster than either McLaren or RBR this year, and the Ferrari this year was more reliable than the one in , but Alonso fought for the championship this year, whereas Schumacher could only be best of the rest, so it pretty much evens out.
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